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BUYING SILVER makes sense for lots of reasons that lots of analysts don't get,
BUYING SILVER makes sense for lots of reasons that lots of analysts don't get, writes Adrian Ash at Bullionvault.
If you see the appeal, there are smart ways to buy, and less wise choices ways.
One popular route, enjoying record demand for the second year running, cost investors at least $113 million more than they need spend in 2014.
By early December, demand for buying silver Eagle coins made by the US Mint already hit an annual record.
More than 42.8 million Silver Eagles were produced and sold by the Mint year-to-date. That tops even 2013's full-year record.
Silver ETF trust fund holdings have meantime held firm near record levels. Bullionvault users have also been buying silver in 2014, adding some 1.7 million ounces to the metal they own in secure London, Zurich, Singapore and Toronto vaults as well.
Coming against the continued drop in silver prices however, some analysts think such robust investor demand is crazy. Because a small group of what the finance industry calls "retail investors" have kept pouring money into silver as it kept falling...all the way down from $49.50 per ounce in 2011 to just $14.40 in the wholesale 'spot' market at early December's new, sudden and brief five-year low.
"Will these people never learn?" you might ask.
But the value case for silver today – the fact it looks historically cheap in terms of gold, in terms of fiat Dollars, and simply as a hard asset used as money since the dawn of civilization – is only one part of the story as 2015 begins.
Growing technologies are now replacing the demand lost from photographic film since digital cameras and then smart phones began to take over at the turn of this century. On top of existing industrial silver uses, like in chemicals production, new technologies also find silver to be the truly "indispensable metal", from solar energy to silver in flexible touch-screens to RFID tags for tracking packages shipped worldwide.
Being a noble metal, silver doesn't rust or corrode. The most conductive of all materials for electricity, silver is the most reflective metal, and has the highest thermal conductivity too. And because bacteria can't grow on it, pure silver has long been used to line bottles and jugs to keep water, wine and milk fresh. Now its commonly used to fight mold, mildew and infections in timber treatments, sportswear, mens socks, hospital linen and wound dressings.
Global economic growth can thus build a solid case for silver's long-term value. But shorter-term, and for more active traders and investors, silver's price volatility also appeals today, especially starting down here near those 5-year lows. Because when silver moves, as December 2014's huge 19% rally proved, it really moves.
Private investors buying silver down here clearly think they've grabbed a bargain. But if they hope to sell a big spike, or plan to hold for a longer-term revaluation by the market, then 2014's record-high sales of Eagle coins from the US Mint are odd.
Because those investors gave away a huge chunk of their potential profits. An easy $113 million or more, in fact.
Individuals cannot buy straight from the Mint. The best-priced US retail price, offered by an approved distributor today, costs you $2.80 per ounce over and above wholesale spot prices.
Checking live quotes on BullionVault in contrast, private investors would have paid barely 20 cents per ounce over spot – commission included – at current prices. So they could have easily saved $113 million on 2014's year-to-date sales, way up at 42.8 million ounces.
Yes, using Bullionvault, you must then [url=https://www.bullionvault.com/help/tariff.html#Custody charges]pay storage and insurance[/url]. Because it removes the hassle of trying to care for coins (or small bars) at home. It also enables you to sell the very moment you wish, with instant settlement of payment in full, rather than trying to negotiate or shop around different coin dealers' quotes when the time comes.
On the buying-cost savings alone meantime, the typical Bullionvault user would save so much money acquiring 500 ounces of silver, he or she would then enjoy more than 14 years of free storage.
So, whether or not today's "silver stackers" are crazy as some analysts think, they're surely mad to buy so much silver in the form of high-cost coins.
And that is without even touching on the issue of VAT sales tax...costing up to 20% extra...which UK and other European investors face when buying physical metal outside Good Delivery silver bars and storage.
That, to my mind, really is the definition of crazy.
If you see the appeal, there are smart ways to buy, and less wise choices ways.
One popular route, enjoying record demand for the second year running, cost investors at least $113 million more than they need spend in 2014.
By early December, demand for buying silver Eagle coins made by the US Mint already hit an annual record.
More than 42.8 million Silver Eagles were produced and sold by the Mint year-to-date. That tops even 2013's full-year record.
Silver ETF trust fund holdings have meantime held firm near record levels. Bullionvault users have also been buying silver in 2014, adding some 1.7 million ounces to the metal they own in secure London, Zurich, Singapore and Toronto vaults as well.
Coming against the continued drop in silver prices however, some analysts think such robust investor demand is crazy. Because a small group of what the finance industry calls "retail investors" have kept pouring money into silver as it kept falling...all the way down from $49.50 per ounce in 2011 to just $14.40 in the wholesale 'spot' market at early December's new, sudden and brief five-year low.
"Will these people never learn?" you might ask.
But the value case for silver today – the fact it looks historically cheap in terms of gold, in terms of fiat Dollars, and simply as a hard asset used as money since the dawn of civilization – is only one part of the story as 2015 begins.
Growing technologies are now replacing the demand lost from photographic film since digital cameras and then smart phones began to take over at the turn of this century. On top of existing industrial silver uses, like in chemicals production, new technologies also find silver to be the truly "indispensable metal", from solar energy to silver in flexible touch-screens to RFID tags for tracking packages shipped worldwide.
Being a noble metal, silver doesn't rust or corrode. The most conductive of all materials for electricity, silver is the most reflective metal, and has the highest thermal conductivity too. And because bacteria can't grow on it, pure silver has long been used to line bottles and jugs to keep water, wine and milk fresh. Now its commonly used to fight mold, mildew and infections in timber treatments, sportswear, mens socks, hospital linen and wound dressings.
Global economic growth can thus build a solid case for silver's long-term value. But shorter-term, and for more active traders and investors, silver's price volatility also appeals today, especially starting down here near those 5-year lows. Because when silver moves, as December 2014's huge 19% rally proved, it really moves.
Private investors buying silver down here clearly think they've grabbed a bargain. But if they hope to sell a big spike, or plan to hold for a longer-term revaluation by the market, then 2014's record-high sales of Eagle coins from the US Mint are odd.
Because those investors gave away a huge chunk of their potential profits. An easy $113 million or more, in fact.
Individuals cannot buy straight from the Mint. The best-priced US retail price, offered by an approved distributor today, costs you $2.80 per ounce over and above wholesale spot prices.
Checking live quotes on BullionVault in contrast, private investors would have paid barely 20 cents per ounce over spot – commission included – at current prices. So they could have easily saved $113 million on 2014's year-to-date sales, way up at 42.8 million ounces.
Yes, using Bullionvault, you must then [url=https://www.bullionvault.com/help/tariff.html#Custody charges]pay storage and insurance[/url]. Because it removes the hassle of trying to care for coins (or small bars) at home. It also enables you to sell the very moment you wish, with instant settlement of payment in full, rather than trying to negotiate or shop around different coin dealers' quotes when the time comes.
On the buying-cost savings alone meantime, the typical Bullionvault user would save so much money acquiring 500 ounces of silver, he or she would then enjoy more than 14 years of free storage.
So, whether or not today's "silver stackers" are crazy as some analysts think, they're surely mad to buy so much silver in the form of high-cost coins.
And that is without even touching on the issue of VAT sales tax...costing up to 20% extra...which UK and other European investors face when buying physical metal outside Good Delivery silver bars and storage.
That, to my mind, really is the definition of crazy.
Sane investors can side-step all these costs. Use Bullionvault to buy silver directly at the lowest possible charges.
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Re: BUYING SILVER makes sense for lots of reasons that lots of analysts don't get,
It doesn't matter what they seem to think- When the dollar finally tanks, if you have bought large amounts of silver coins, gold coins, or some platinum, you'll be damn lucky to have it because very soon, a hoard for these metals will start, and sell like crazy, and then you'll pay hell, and higher prices for them- So if you can buy them now- www.kitco.com-
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Re: BUYING SILVER makes sense for lots of reasons that lots of analysts don't get,
terbo so is chinese gold mining stocks that just secured mining rights in bagdad oh i forgot there is no gold in iraq
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That's right- Kevin and enthusiast said so- Bullshit-
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terbo soon you might own your own rail road if the chinese are right like in chile and columbia except in iraq it will be pryite not sure of spelling but to non geologist fools gold
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Pyrite is the correct spelling, and it is a sulfate of iron.
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Yes, derived from shale and quartz-
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terbo the mid of month they start digging for gold anyway i just hit a gold mine a guy took rope and attached it to 2 sprinkler heads and flooded 3 apt a mini rv talk later
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No way!! What a dumbass-
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http://www.monex.com/prods/gold.html
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Terbo LMAO http://www.monex.com/prods/gold.html has cheaper gold bars , you buy the silver and I get me a gold chunk
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Yep, and it was probably filled with charcoal, too, I got rid of some of that on ebay, and bought from kitco- It weighed out to the thousandth of a gram-
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Royboy, that was my post above- Don't know how it ended up like that!
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kitco.com is a good one...here are some others.
http://www.apmex.com/
https://silvergoldbull.com/1-oz-2015-canadian-maple-leaf-gold-coin
Found this for some of the Canadian folks if there are any here.
http://www.sunnahmoney.com/buyers-guide/canada/
I have a good friend in the US who busy a lot of gold coins from all over. Said to stay away from china and chinese coins because
Chinese are absolute masters at counterfeiting....
Here is some advice I got from him.
Maples come in 25 coin rolls and eagles in 20 rolls, so the maples will be more expensive, but that's generally because you are getting 5 more coins.
Pandas seem to cost the most, harmonics the least and everything else in in between... (maples, eagles and libertads etc) And forgot to mention, Libertads (Mexico) is a good way to get fractionalized silver, meaning pieces less than an ounce from a trusted / internationally recognized mint
And one last thing.... if you get into gold, the maple is more pure than the eagle, and you would have to get the US gold buffalo to get equal purity with the maple.
http://www.apmex.com/
https://silvergoldbull.com/1-oz-2015-canadian-maple-leaf-gold-coin
Found this for some of the Canadian folks if there are any here.
http://www.sunnahmoney.com/buyers-guide/canada/
I have a good friend in the US who busy a lot of gold coins from all over. Said to stay away from china and chinese coins because
Chinese are absolute masters at counterfeiting....
Here is some advice I got from him.
Maples come in 25 coin rolls and eagles in 20 rolls, so the maples will be more expensive, but that's generally because you are getting 5 more coins.
Pandas seem to cost the most, harmonics the least and everything else in in between... (maples, eagles and libertads etc) And forgot to mention, Libertads (Mexico) is a good way to get fractionalized silver, meaning pieces less than an ounce from a trusted / internationally recognized mint
And one last thing.... if you get into gold, the maple is more pure than the eagle, and you would have to get the US gold buffalo to get equal purity with the maple.
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From what I read silver long term will do well but it takes so much to store it. If you are looking to keep your wealth from deteriorating I have read that gold is the better option.
JMO of course
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Goldiegirl, you are right- But until we are all set with the RI/RV, we will pay hell trying to buy precious metals, a little at a time, but Kitco WILL be my first stop-
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Some people are buying now. Even one coin at a time. Better than a 401K or stock investment.
I'm not waiting on any RV because t may never happen.... but storing money in the bank or under your mattress won't save you from what will happen one day.
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I'm not waiting on any RV because t may never happen.... but storing money in the bank or under your mattress won't save you from what will happen one day.
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True, but I might be gone by the wayside before that happens, and we cannot worry about what will happen- We need to worry about what IS going to happen-I would never put it in the bank or, let alone, under a mattress- I have other alternatives in mind!
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Hey Terbo, weather warming up down there yet?
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It's still cold in Canada.
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Mona says hi backTerbo wrote:Please tell Mona I said hello, and hope she gets back here soon. She's Great people! We'll talk soon-
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HezekiaH--- I'll send you some sun next week lol
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Royboy, that would be easy- Send him a gallon of orange juice, or a tanning lamp, throw some sand around, and 'voila'- Instant beach, just add vodka to the orange juice!!! LMAO!
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I'm allergic to orange juice. It's the citric acid but I will take grapefruit juice.
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I didn't know that- You could always mix some 'milk of magnesia', and vodka, and have a 'Philips screwdriver!
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Grapefruit juice has citric acid, too, so do tomatoes-
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Both are not sweet and there is no temptations to have to much of either.
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